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HuntMaster Avatar · Aug 30, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

As I said in the very begining when heroes were first released. 7 heroes would rock. But anet sucks so we won't ever have them.

HuntMaster Avatar · Aug 30, 2008, 10:26 AM // 10:26

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Originally Posted by Belonah15

As always I support getting a full deck of Heroes. And I do not care how many threads about it there are, I will post my support in every thread.

BTW apparently GW2 will have even less, seems ANET wants to do away with them in GW2. If this is correct, I will not buy GW2.

This is true, you get 1 companion to aid you. I will not be getting gw2 and that is among the list of reasons.

upier · Aug 30, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54

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Originally Posted by Belonah15

BTW apparently GW2 will have even less, seems ANET wants to do away with them in GW2. If this is correct, I will not buy GW2.

But the way I understand it - GW2 will also be designed differently.
It won't be as much of a team game anymore but more of a single player fiesta.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Regina posted some info about seven-heroes issue:

Seems like 7-hero issue is not being pursued because they don't people to actually implement it should they decide to do so.

Still not time to get hopes high.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!11!1
The Izzy Leipzig thread:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...55&postcount=2

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

SUMMARY:
A new team of about 6-7 people work on GW1 now.
New items, missions, quests are being worked on to be released all the way to early next year.
More "explore" will be added to Guild Wars 1. (whatever that means)

Hopefully these guys will now look into all-hero parties!

RedNova88 · Aug 30, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57

upier is correct. They have said you will have the option of having one(1) hero-like character with you, and it's totally optional, if you choose to go without you are buffed to compensate for it.

T1Cybernetic · Aug 30, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

I added a poll. Everyone vote please.

Excellent, i wondered where the poll came from

it should give a clear indication of how much this is supported...

upier · Aug 30, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

it should give a clear indication of how much this is supported...

I kinda doubt it since it's an ancient thread.
People will probably just skip it so it will be pretty much just entered by the devoted few which might even end up skipping past the poll.

Sleeper Service · Aug 30, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

GWO put up a poll for this back in 07 or 06...the numbers were about 72% in favour at the time if i recall.

still be nice to see if opinion has evolved seeing as what people were warning was going to happen happened and all.

Schmerdro · Aug 30, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

It would be nice if Regina could just RESPOND to the arguments presented here... and not just a short reply with A-Net's own beliefs which have been proven to be invalid a long time ago.
A-Net has given plenty of proof that they don't play their own game... which is fine and their own loss... but I don't think anybody in this community likes to be ignored.

And lastly, this is about removing the hero cap, so it would require a programmer to remove code. Sure it would be complicated to add extra flags or other fancy stuff to make this 7-hero-thing look pretty but we just want it to be functional. I have only a few university courses on programming but I'm fairly confident it can be easily done, A-Net just doesn't want to do it.

But I still think there's hope. A-Net wanted GW to be a game for PvP-only players, and they kept desperately trying to seduce PvE players into PvP (especially with the release of Factions) but they failed and they admitted it... that's why they made Nightfall and EoTN which catered mostly to PvE players. Right now they are resisting to give PvE players control over 7 or 11 heroes because (yet again) they want impose their beliefs on what is fun and how GW should be played, just like they tried to move PvE players into PvP.

I hope that they can get over their ignorance and just let players have fun in any way they prefer. It seems like they had the wisdom to do it before, and I hope they can do it again.

Abedeus · Aug 30, 2008, 12:56 PM // 12:56

As for now, overwhelming majority is in favor of 7 heroes.

And it was discussed many times - even if those extra 4 heroes don't have flags, we will be happy. Just make it possible to bring 4 more heroes in Henchmen/Player slots.

Remember - We still won't be able to go 8x necro team or 8x para team, we are still limited to our heroes.

Shadow_7 · Aug 30, 2008, 01:12 PM // 13:12

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

And it was discussed many times - even if those extra 4 heroes don't have flags, we will be happy. Just make it possible to bring 4 more heroes in Henchmen/Player slots.

Bingo!!!

Just to have them like having henchies with you, but with our own made skillbars. Not to control all 7, just 3, but having a full heroe team.

tmr819 · Aug 30, 2008, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

As for now, overwhelming majority is in favor of 7 heroes.

And it was discussed many times - even if those extra 4 heroes don't have flags, we will be happy. Just make it possible to bring 4 more heroes in Henchmen/Player slots.

Remember - We still won't be able to go 8x necro team or 8x para team, we are still limited to our heroes.

This is exactly what I wish ArenaNet would do. It is not rocket science; it just allows players to bring along 3 controllable (well, sorta controllable

) heroes like we do now plus 4 hench-style heroes -- no flags, no button bars.

I'm not hopeful this will happen, but if it did, I'd start playing GW1 again in a heartbeat, just because I think it would be so much more fun.

Commander Ryker · Aug 30, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

Excellent, i wondered where the poll came from

it should give a clear indication of how much this is supported...

That and I wanted results that the devs or whom ever could see without wading through 1,000+ posts.

Sai Rith · Aug 30, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Just need about 4 more Necro heroes tbh.

wilebill · Aug 30, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

I voted no, because 7 heroes in general is too much to ask for, a game breaker.

Four heroes (4) could be a reasonable request, possibly they might grant that for hard mode only if it was not too hard to code.

The hench are just fine, really. I used heroes and hench on Fire and Pain, think it took me two tries.

Bryant, I started playing at retail release of Prophecies. I would not want to go back to random PUGs. Grouping with guildies, yes that works. But random PUGs are still as bad as ever.

Abedeus · Aug 30, 2008, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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I voted no, because 7 heroes in general is too much to ask for, a game breaker.

How it's game breaking? That someone using h/h is not crippled by stupid and useless builds Henches use? That 8 players will be STILL far superior to 7 heroes + player?

And you can have 6 heroes + 2 players. Or 1 player + 6 heroes in missions before EotN and elite areas.

Dawgboy · Aug 30, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

If you feel 7 heroes would be detrimental to your game play there'd be an easy solution. Take henchmen as well. Or just forget all about the heroes you're NOW allowed to use and just take henchies everywhere you go! What fun!

See? Doing this wouldn't effect you at all, except for making the cities a little more busy because more people would be playing.

illidan009 · Aug 30, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

well i'd have to say vanquishing would be a hell of a lot easier...i mean if sabway with 3 heros can do it already 7 heros...

DDD then again it would take away from even more pugging...less contact with ppl, even if they are idiots, would make GW less of a MMO...

Issac · Aug 30, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

As long as we don't have to use our own cash to customize them, make it like the pvp setup. That would be cool then.

maraxusofk · Aug 30, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

they might as well. this game is already a single player game in pve. i mean how much worse can u ruin this game? heroes already blew pve wide apart.

Skyy High · Aug 30, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

This is true, you get 1 companion to aid you. I will not be getting gw2 and that is among the list of reasons.

Please speculate less failtastically. What makes you think the entire game will be balanced around 8-player parties, when they've said that they appreciate the fact that players also enjoy solo content, especially in non-instanced areas? What makes you think that said "companion" (which is supposed to be optional and reduce your power if you choose to take him/her along) will exist to the exclusion of the standard henchies and heros present in the current game, for content that does require a full team?

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See? Doing this wouldn't effect you at all, except for making the cities a little more busy because more people would be playing.

Now that's BS. Pretty much anything can be done with 3 heros and 4 henchies as-is; adding 7 hero parties may briefly get people interested again, but on the whole it'd still be the same game they're playing. If you're bored now, you'd be bored then. There certainly wouldn't be any greater sense of community, and the theoretical greater number of players wouldn't really matter at all; anyone brought back to the game with full hero teams would be playing with full hero teams, not with you.